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11/28/2017 8:52 am  #1


 

11/28/2017 9:13 am  #2


Re: Luke Walks In As HC

players are behind him, at least the fan base could stop being against him...

 

11/28/2017 9:44 am  #3


Re: Luke Walks In As HC

Themob wrote:

players are behind him, at least the fan base could stop being against him...

You ain't seen nothin' yet.....  We were sucker punched and payback is going to be coming in the form of lost revenue.... They played us with this hiring process and were oh so clever about it.....they think, as usual, OM lemmings will fall in line and show up in the grove and not give a rat's ass if we win or not.....  

Well....some will continue to support this loser but there is a large group who will NOT....  They've finally overplayed their hand and completely fractured the fan base......Congrats to the GOBs.....they won.....at least for the short term.


He was panther quick and Leather tough.
If he figured that He'd been pushed enough.
The Rebel----Johnny Yuma
 
 

11/28/2017 10:48 am  #4


Re: Luke Walks In As HC

Themob wrote:

players are behind him, at least the fan base could stop being against him...

Not when this entire thing was a sham and he was inserted into a position he has no business being in and got handed to him under the table.

 

11/28/2017 11:21 am  #5


Re: Luke Walks In As HC

It's really quite simple.  Ole Miss Athletics are no different than Corporate America.  When a corporation is bullied into promoting the worst performing employee in the workforce there are going to be consequences.  No amount of "let's support him" will ever overcome the sheer reality that the rest of the organization was totally misled with wasting corporate resources on a sham of a search when the fix was in last January.  Maybe sooner depending on who you ask and how loose the alcohol makes their lips. You reap what you sow and the GOB's have sewn a big damn field of weeds where crops used to grow.  
I have to laugh when I see things like "we should give Luke a chance to see how he does".  WTF?   How quickly we forget his ass should have been fired years ago as the worst offensive line coach in the history of college football yet he was protected then just like he is protected now.  I remember the grumblings when he was hand delivered to Freeze's first staff.  I was so elated with the Freeze hire I didn't think too much of it at the time and had been told Freeze would fire anyone on his staff that didn't perform per his history.  Once again I was wrong and that ultimately led up to where we are today.  Only Ed Orgeron had the balls to call the spade a spade when he ran Luke's ass off to Tennessee.  I don't recall Cut being too upset he was leaving to come back to Ole Miss either.  Cut being a guy known for keeping staffs together and promoting from within.   
Welcome to 1970-80 regression.  It's coming fast and furious as are the excuses for why we suck.  I had to listen to them all season long this year and it will only grow from there.  The only difference is now the GOB's have overplayed their hand.  They don't have the money they once did and their percentage of the fanbase is shrinking.  Watch how it unfolds and it will be ugly but well deserved.  Unfortunately at Ole Miss we are slow to learn and this scenario is no different.  


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11/28/2017 11:22 am  #6


Re: Luke Walks In As HC

i am not buying the gob crap, what i see is this.  we are not going to get a good coach look at us until after the ncaa.  Even if we were able to pick up a "big league" coach, he would have had a big time contract fillled with slippery outs if the ncaa sanctions were worse than expected. Then this coach would have been able to jump at any one of the many other openings willing to pay more than we would have paid.

I have been on here many times stating that Luke under performed his entire career as the OL coach and as the "running game coordinator".  Now he was not the OL coach or the RGC, all of a sudden we have a 1k yard rusher and a nationally ranked and more balanced offense

but we were also like 5 plays away from a 9 win season with him as a coach.  

the point is this, he will not shit on ole miss.  He will work his tail off.  if we go 2-9 next year and we are not dealing with a 2nd year bowl band, he will be fired. If he goes 6-6 the next 2 years and the worst of the cluster freak of the ncaa is behind us, he will be let go and we will then be able to go after the best coach possible

But that will not be the case if are already small fan base stop coming to the games, raising revenues needed to hire potential coaches everyone will not belly ache about.  I have already made plans to go to 3 games next year and I live hundreds of miles away.  Point is, Matt is not who I wanted. Wasn't even in my top 5.  but we are in a position that we have zero ability to do jack crap until the ncaa finally does their deed to us and by that time, no one's desired coach would have been available anyway. So the admin ripped the bandaid so Matt can go to work now and he will go to work no matter what the ncaa throws at us. 

that can not be said with any other national coach

 

11/28/2017 11:44 am  #7


Re: Luke Walks In As HC

There were much more qualified coaches that wanted the Ole Miss job. Instead, it was given to Luke after the University wasted a ton of money on a search firm just to use as a cover up. It was beyond obvious this season that Luke had no clue what he was doing. And this is why everyone is pissed off. He proved he was a shitty coach. I don't care if the players love him or not. This program is at a crossroads and hiring Luke will set us back even further.

 

11/28/2017 11:44 am  #8


Re: Luke Walks In As HC

Themob wrote:

i am not buying the gob crap, what i see is this.  we are not going to get a good coach look at us until after the ncaa.  Even if we were able to pick up a "big league" coach, he would have had a big time contract fillled with slippery outs if the ncaa sanctions were worse than expected. Then this coach would have been able to jump at any one of the many other openings willing to pay more than we would have paid.

I have been on here many times stating that Luke under performed his entire career as the OL coach and as the "running game coordinator".  Now he was not the OL coach or the RGC, all of a sudden we have a 1k yard rusher and a nationally ranked and more balanced offense

but we were also like 5 plays away from a 9 win season with him as a coach.  

the point is this, he will not shit on ole miss.  He will work his tail off.  if we go 2-9 next year and we are not dealing with a 2nd year bowl band, he will be fired. If he goes 6-6 the next 2 years and the worst of the cluster freak of the ncaa is behind us, he will be let go and we will then be able to go after the best coach possible

But that will not be the case if are already small fan base stop coming to the games, raising revenues needed to hire potential coaches everyone will not belly ache about.  I have already made plans to go to 3 games next year and I live hundreds of miles away.  Point is, Matt is not who I wanted. Wasn't even in my top 5.  but we are in a position that we have zero ability to do jack crap until the ncaa finally does their deed to us and by that time, no one's desired coach would have been available anyway. So the admin ripped the bandaid so Matt can go to work now and he will go to work no matter what the ncaa throws at us. 

that can not be said with any other national coach

First off let me say this isn't a personal attack....but rather it's a commentary on the pervasive mind set of many OM people...

To wit.....this is a perfect example of the "We're little Ole Miss" mindset.....always an excuse for why we can't do better.....  

As long as we think like losers well will manage to live down to that expectation......

I've been watching this crap for 50+ years and the pattern never changes....or at least not for long (Tubs and Hugh being short exceptions to the rule).....and we just re-upped for another round.....We'll be in a HC again in a very few years and I'll predict right now (several years out) that we'll be fed another line of excuses as to why we have to hire yet another coach in training or a worn out old retread.....
 


He was panther quick and Leather tough.
If he figured that He'd been pushed enough.
The Rebel----Johnny Yuma
 
 

11/28/2017 2:16 pm  #9


Re: Luke Walks In As HC

Mob I respect your opinion but you need to read what you just posted and how many excuses for mediocrity are built into it.  
Would Nissan promote a Matt Luke performance?  Absolutely not.  Would Ford or Chevy come hire him away from Nissan?  It's likely they wouldn't even know who he was much less have any interest in him.  
This was the decision they were going to make regardless but doing it like this again buys them the built in excuse of not knowing what the NCAA is going to hand down to us.  So the next logical question that of course will never be answered is why the rush?  if we were going to hire Luke anyway and it was clear no one else was even remotely interested in him why rush?  What if we find out the NCAA accepted our self imposed penalties soon?  How would that have changed the pool of interested candidates?  The coaching carousel and domino effect is never easy to figure out but what we do know is that our rat infested admin isn't going to attract any top tier coach so the rats placed their own rat in the driver's seat.  When you have agents steering candidates away that is very telling.  
So next year we go 4-8 or worse what will be the excuse then?  I'm sure they will have plenty of them.  When we sign a top 50 class that ranks last in the sec we will hear all kinds of built in excuses about "we don't chase stars"  "we want good kids, not thugs", etc.  Meanwhile when we get our asses kicked against bama, auburn and LSU again next season and we are no more competitive in those games than we were this season we will have fully returned to the cut cycle of average.  Maybe the old guard should buy some condos in shreveport because that is the only place we will be playing in the bowl season and that may be a stretch.  
What happens when Matt Luke is completely outcoached on game day?  When we see the deer in the headlights look again we saw so often last year?  
I will also point out we had a 1000 yard rusher in an offense that gained 71% of its yards passing.  3941 passing, 1607 rushing, 5548 total.  What does that tell you?  We faced a lot of teams with 6 db's trying to defend the pass so there was a lot of room to run.  Happy for Jordan Wilkins and wished we had him for one more season.  But that stat needs some realistic context.  I would argue that passing yardage percentage was lowered with Patterson's injury as well.  
So to sum if you don't believe the GOB's are behind this hire then I can't help you.  The writing on the wall is as clear as the message on the rock at Tennessee.  
Also it will take a total upheaval of the fan base, lots of empty seats and lost revenue to send the message that the GOB's may want to run things but they don't control the largest purse strings at Ole Miss anymore.  I hope our fanbase unifies behind this lesson that has to be learned and speaks with their wallets, etc  
I won't be attending any games at Ole Miss until Luke is fired and the majority if not all of the current sitting admin is cleared out.  If it takes sinking the ship to get the rats out I'll happily pull the plug and hide the buckets.  The message needs to be sent loud and clear.  


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