- catfishboy
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Many of the same people who support Luke were influential in getting Boyce anointed as Chancellor. The Lukes have lots of political connections with Ole Miss with father, son, and brother all working for the AD. They live in Oxford, make good money, and are in the political ring. Do you think they want to give all of this up because some realistic fans don't want them there? Luke is in like Flint and the Ole Miss fans who want to be winners will be the ones who suffer. Most likely there will be no change and Luke and his family will dictate the terms of him being the HC at Ole Miss.
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Luke is at OM to stay at least through next year, and probably for several years. They will throw even more money at good assistants who can coach and recruit to make Luke look better. Any talk of who we could hire to replace him is useless now. Luke is not going away.
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I sure wish those posting to this thread would indicate whether their comments are opinions, or statements of fact. For example is there a basis of fact for such comments as, "Luke is gone after this season", or "Luke is going to be our HC forever", or are those opinions? It would help many of us to decide whether to be optomistic, depressed or suicidal. 
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RebRxV wrote:
I sure wish those posting to this thread would indicate whether their comments are opinions, or statements of fact. For example is there a basis of fact for such comments as, "Luke is gone after this season", or "Luke is going to be our HC forever", or are those opinions? It would help many of us to decide whether to be optomistic, depressed or suicidal.
It’s all opinion and speculation- no one knows what’s gonna happen in the future. My opinion is Luke will be here in 2020, but if he doesn’t make a bowl game next year then he’s done. Attendance will continue to decline and season ticket sales and that’ll be the bottom line.
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I agree with all of that but for attendance. Some folks go just to win. I don't think I ever did, if I did it was foolishness. I go because of meeting friends in Oxford and enjoying our past time together. I was in Oxford for 2 weeks and 2 games but only attended one. The crowds and effort sometimes make watching at the Library, or another such venue, more fun. Obviously to a season ticket buyer any longer.
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I sure wish those posting to this thread would indicate whether their comments are opinions, or statements of fact. For example is there a basis of fact for such comments as, "Luke is gone after this season", or "Luke is going to be our HC forever", or are those opinions? It would help many of us to decide whether to be optomistic, depressed or suicidal.
Too funny Rx.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong here. I think that I remember Luke’s contract was set up so that he started at maybe 3 million per year and had a four year contract that AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS and has AUTOMATIC pay increases of 250k per year. I think by now he’s making 3.5 million per year (base pay) and that will increase next season. Further, I think that in the event he is fired we are obligated to pay him his remaining contract for the next four years regardless. Am I wrong?
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State wants Morehead gone now. And its just his second year. Lol
Moo U will know when to cut bait and most likely hire a much better coach. Meanwhile in Oxford, Fluke sits on his throne, sucking on popsicles, dreaming of the next buffet, and scratching his head wondering how to interpret that last football play. He laughs, though, as he gets an undeserved raise and watches his bank account grow while the Ole Miss football team plummets downward to the lower ranks of college football.
You forgot to include "winning golf tournaments"...
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We are about to go through another losing slide. I think eventually what will get Luke fired is not his record although each year the losses increase. I think what will get him fired is the dwindling attendance. They will not be able to fill the stadium and make the money. The money factor will out rank the political pull.
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We are about to go through another losing slide. I think eventually what will get Luke fired is not his record although each year the losses increase. I think what will get him fired is the dwindling attendance. They will not be able to fill the stadium and make the money. The money factor will out rank the political pull.
if we only win 4 games this year, there is no realistic justification to keep any coach in this scenario. Luke won 6 his first year, 5 last year. So if he goes to 4 wins this year, sorry, but that has nothing to do about his "love" and drive to help make this university great again. if we win 4 this year, that means out of 36 games, he only won 1 game that he shouldn't have and that was against State in his 1st year.
I hate adding pressure to an already tough situation, but an SEC coach has to plan out the situations ahead and have a plan of action to address it. It takes someone to handle all fronts and challenges of competing in this league. Very few have the ability and resources to battle everything from recruiting, to attracting and retaining assistants. Preparing for and executing game day. So most coaches just have to be good at a number of things and great at some things.
I will say in all honestly, I am fine with RR and MM. I think RR has missed a few opportunities but we lost a load of talent last year so offense was going to be a work in progress and we have made progress. The defense has does better and continues to work to improve a bit.
However, the loses keep pilling up at this point. I am just looking for reality and perspective. when Luke comes out and said the goal is a bowl. That is that telling a massive group of starving people and telling them follow me to the stadium, I will bring you a cheeseburger. Then you get people to the stadium and there is no cheeseburger. And then tell them to come back next week, I am excited about the potential of having a cheeseburger. People show up and there is no cheeseburger. Then the next week, when people stop showing up these people get made that folks are not falling for potential. We have been starving for 4 years now..
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Luke will be HC next year guys. When he was hired, many of us were screaming because we knew exactly what this meant - we are stuck with him for a long while.
Look, let's look at reality right now:
1. There are still people claiming we couldn't get a better HC when Luke was hired - we know that to be 100% wrong, and was just a narrative pushed out there to help "sell" a horrible OL coach. Dave Doeren was set to take the job before the GOBs put an end to that. Also, Bill Clark was very interested in the job and would have taken it if offered.
2. Luke was given a crazy buyout to help prolong his tenure. Everyone knew he would be a bust, so to keep him around long as possible, the idea is to make it take hurt to get rid of him. We fire him after this season and we have to pay him for the remainder of his contract. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out "why" his contract was structured like he was the second coming of Saban.
3. The new narrative is the "youth movement". Let's ignore that Luke has been here for what - 7 years? The new big push is we are so young and so talented, and Luke is "building something special". This point is the main one that will be used to justify in giving him another year.
4. Boyce. Boyce is a politician - we all know it. And he's not going to piss off the Luke family when he is already hated amongst the majority of the base. It would be career suicide for him to immediately get rid of Luke.
5. MM and RR - how many times have you all seen where Luke has been praised for being able to hire these guys? Two coaches that were fired while being accused of covering up some very bad things. Luke didn't hire these guys away from anyone - they needed a job and to fix their reputation before they head on to a HC position elsewhere. But, the talking point is Luke being a genius for these two hires.
The Lyceum has been pushing these talking points hard, because they are still trying to sell him because he's going nowhere. People blindly drank the Kool Aid, believing all of these talking points, while the Luke family say back laughing. If either of these coordinators leave after this season, then that will become another talking point next year for Luke needing more time to get a loyal staff.
Everyone remember the excuses for his OL play all of these years? They are young, need more time, etc...? Rinse and repeat folks.
I'm not trying to be all gloom and doom, but I'm old enough to know better and to be able to understand the realities of everything that has give into Luke as our HC.
He'll get next year, and if we do manage to win 6, then he'll get a contact extension. Mark my words on that.