Coming in at this stage of the game (year) I don't see any change FWIW. Maybe some assets find a god gig elsewhere,

This team can lose out and Luke will still be the HC next season. The fix was in on getting him the HC position - it doesn't matter how disastrous he is. The only way he'd get fired is if he were caught banging a box of Krispy Kremes in front of an Elementary school. Even then, idiots would cheer him for his choice of donuts.

The history has been there for his horrible coaching abilities as a OL coach. Now we witness dumb decision after dumb decision during games, and the narrative today is "They are getting better". The kids are getting better due to the coordinators - doesn't have a damn thing to do with Pillsbury Doughboy.

Have any of you worked for a total idiot before? If so, you remember how unhappy you were? If I'm RR or MM, I bolt the first chance I get. And when that happens, Luke won't be able to hire two more former coaches of the year to cover up his stupidity.

Themob wrote:

for some team to hire RR or MM, I am sure there is a payout right?

They are already making pretty decent money, so it will require a HC job more than likely.  Just not sure if they are able to leave without penalty or what opportunity is out there that will be willing to spend the type of money to take them away.  I am actually happy with MM.  The D still has a long way to go, but they are miles ahead of where they were last year.  Part of it is the depth and experience has improved, but the other part is coaching.  

 

Vandy will be looking for a new HC after this season. My guess is they go after MM, who is a Vandy guy.

Luke family has a ton of clout where it counts.  I think all Luke has to do is play respectable losses and beat New Mexico State.  If he beats anyone in the conference, he's golden. I think there will be some extreme pressure on Boyce to let Luke play out his contract (NCAA, no support, hasn't had time to recruit, yada yada yada). I would love to be wrong but as you know...WAOM.

Sooper_Rebel wrote:

Good grief. You think that a new Chancellor and new AD will be ok to keep the money going down the toilet by letting Luke have another year? Maybe I am the only one that sees a half empty stadium and the $$$ that goes with that. We can't afford to keep him. The Chancellor that needs to make a PR splash certainly cannot afford to keep him and a new AD that comes in is going to have no loyalty to Luke and will want to make a splash as well. I just don't see Luke lasting past this season.

you see it, I see it, the 50k empty seats see it.   The problem is how you me and the 50k empty seats don't have any faith in any of the decisions makers.  How as it come to this point?  there is not a program out there that allowed the NCAA to hold them prisoner for half a decade and then, after they left they kept us bleeding on the floor for another 2 years before they allowed us to finally get up.   

People are funny. We can do stupid things but we have a tendency to acknowledge something is not right and then at some point, we will make the decision to change course.   for two years i defended luke because you can see our program was nuclear reactive.  There was not going to be a single experienced coach that I would trust managing our delicate situation.  So i was fine with giving the reigns to Luke for the interim.  Remember, that first year there were over 12 power 5 HC jobs open.  There is no way in hell I would trust anyone to find a coach in that market. 

The problem is, Luke beat state that last game and we were bowl eligible.  That was a good job.  Then we went the mistake of going like 5-2 last year, then the bottom fell out and some of the worst games I have ever seen played by humans and no one wanted to lay it at the feet of luke.  

The thing is, there is a fine line between just being a judgmental fan who will not be happy until you win a championship and the fan that makes excuses for why you don't.  Generally you can tell where your program is based on how many people are in the stands. Anyone who knows how to count beans can see the fact that by halftime, the stadium looks like a grove bowl crowd and realize that the big budgets that is required to compete is unsustainable with what has gone on the last 2 years.  Even if you sell the seat, part of the added revenue is that burger and coke and nacho order which is not happening.  People are showing up somewhat because they care about the program, they are not staying because they are not sold on the leaders.

Boyce seems to be another example of  a long line of headscratching decisions.  I am in no position to say what is right or wrong but at some point, there has to be results and if we are still looking to hire an AD by the first of next year and we end up hiring some close to home "good rebel", I am probably going to have to turn off my give a damn. 

At the end of the day, sometimes you have to burn it down until you can get back to solid ground.  I am just tired of thinking surely we are starting to climb out of the hole right.... And just when i think someone is trying to give us a hand up, they are actually just handing us a bigger shovel