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9/13/2017 10:48 pm  #11


Re: Ed Orgeron reflects on the infamous 4th and 1 call.

Rebelbowhunter wrote:

BucRebel wrote:

Rebelbowhunter wrote:

Anyone who thinks Orgeron hasn't played nice to Ole Miss in the media has lost their damn minds.  Some of the shit he endured while at Ole Miss borders on criminal.  I mean when your own people turn on you it's bad yet Orgeron has never wavered.  He's always taken the high road.  He's admitted he made mistakes and never, not once, trashed Ole Miss publicly when he has every reason to.  
USC may have not done him right in not hiring him but they never tried to sabotage or set him up to fail either.  Never forced coaching hires on him.  Never refused to support him.  I could go on and on.  Thankfully we have a new admin in place that understands what a staff needs to be successful and Orgeron has found his home.  Happy for him.  He deserves it and has earned it.  He has more class than the overwhelming majority of our "fans"  looking down their nose at him from the grove.  
 

It's ok to disagree without getting personal.  Discussion boards are for discussion, I was trying to have one.  It's just my opinion, no big deal, I'm sure my post won't cost Ed any sleep.
I agree that he was fired too soon and that the Ole Miss admin at the time was a nightmare.  Ed quotes from the story linked above, in his own words:  

“I don't have many memories of that place (Ole Miss) that I want to remember,”
“I thank the good Lord every day,” (that he made the wrong call that likely got him fired from Ole Miss.)

Justified?  Maybe so.  High road? Maybe not.  One way or the other, it's been a decade, so who really cares?  I was just making an observation, I don't hate Ed, I just don't lionize him the way some do. But if they love him, that's ok by me, I just don't understand it is all I was saying.

Anyways, I'm out of this friendly discussion, if anyone needs me I'll be looking for my @#$% mind.

It was not intended to be personal but my opinion of what I think of those who think what Ed said in a room full of LSU media was slanderous towards Ole Miss.  Part of a discussion is giving one's opinions and I don't expect anyone to like it.  It's mine and I own it.  If you don't like it that's cool.  No harm no foul.  
Lionizing?  Lol.  How about giving credit for the foundation of players he established that Nutt rode into the ground and teaching Freeze how to recruit at the college level that directly led to our recent run of success that was arguably meteoric?  No one expects you to like the guy.  He had plenty of faults and has admitted to them.  
What he said was spot on true.  He could have easily sound much worse and much more.  That's answering the question professionally without bashing Ole Miss.  How could he have any fond memories of the place?  He was treated terribly.  To this day it is embarrassing to me to be associated with other Ole Miss folks who were directly responsible for that.  It's bush league and inexcusable and we paid the price for it.  Karma was Nutt in a big big way...

Fair enough, you make some excellent points.  Apologies if I overreacted.  I agree 100% that Nutt's back-to-back NYD bowls were based on Ed's recruiting, and after that he ran the program straight into the ground.  I don't hate Ed, I pulled for him when he was our coach.

 

9/13/2017 10:58 pm  #12


Re: Ed Orgeron reflects on the infamous 4th and 1 call.

No apology needed.  As my wife calls it "a gossip board" is supposed to have differing points of view.  Where I struggle is in my delivery of my thoughts in a way that gets the points I'm trying to make across without making the person reading it feel like they are being attacked.  Guaranteed we would have some great discussions sitting at a bar or whatever.  No way to impart inflection through a keyboard.  
 


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