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Sooper_Rebel wrote:
I'm one of the people that actually think that the conference championships should be round 1 of the playoff. If you can't win your conference, you shouldn't be allowed in. Otherwise, what is the point in even having a conference championship game if you can not qualify for it but you can be qualified for a 4 spot national championship "playoff" game.
I couldn't agree more. If you're not the best team in your conference (by winning it), then you have zero business playing for the NC. But, I think everyone knows there was a ton of backroom politic$ going on to get Bama into the CFB.
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Say that Bama wins and is 13 - 1. UCF is 13 - 0. The only blemish on Alabama's record is to a team that UCF beat. Actually, the same can be said for UGA, but the saving grace there is that UGA won in a rematch.
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I think a UCF vs Georgia NC game would have a much higher rating than the Bama vs Georgia game would have. Outside of the SEC, nobody will care much about the NC game. However, if UCF was in it, everyone outside of the SEC would watch it and be rooting like crazy for UCF to win.
What is really said is UCF was only #12 in the CFP rankings. So even if the playoff was expanded to 8 teams, UCF still wouldn't be in it.
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MeridianOMRebel wrote:
What is really said is UCF was only #12 in the CFP rankings. So even if the playoff was expanded to 8 teams, UCF still wouldn't be in it.
I you eliminated teams that did not win their conference championship, UCF would have been ranked #6.
1. Clemson - ACC
2. Oklahoma - Big 12
3. Georgia - SEC
4. Ohio State - Big 10
5. USC - PAC 12
6. UCF - AAC
7. Notre Dame (No conference)
8. Boise State - MWC
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Sooper_Rebel wrote:
I'm one of the people that actually think that the conference championships should be round 1 of the playoff. If you can't win your conference, you shouldn't be allowed in. Otherwise, what is the point in even having a conference championship game if you can not qualify for it but you can be qualified for a 4 spot national championship "playoff" game.
I like that idea but what happens when 8-4 South Carolina pulls off an upset over 11-1 Bama? Also, would that system eliminate out of conference games (or at least the big match ups) and cause teams to play a full schedule of nothing but conference games? or 10 conference games?
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It could only count as a prerequisite and not a sure in. Maybe make a 2 loss minimum.
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I actually think the conference championship requirement is still flawed. If a 12-0 ole miss team lost to a 12-0 Uga team and gets Bumped out of the top four or even stays in the top four but can’t go because they didn’t win their conference game, that would screw us tremendously or any other team. Especially if there are other one loss regular-season teams. Nothing is going to be perfect everybody’s going to bitch, these are still subjective and somebody’s going to get screwed no matter how it gets done.
If a 12 win Central Florida team got to the championship over a 12 and one ole miss team that beat Bama, Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M, state, and put your SEC East team here, do you think that there’s any justice in this world?
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Themob wrote:
I actually think the conference championship requirement is still flawed. If a 12-0 ole miss team lost to a 12-0 Uga team and gets Bumped out of the top four or even stays in the top four but can’t go because they didn’t win their conference game, that would screw us tremendously or any other team. Especially if there are other one loss regular-season teams. Nothing is going to be perfect everybody’s going to bitch, these are still subjective and somebody’s going to get screwed no matter how it gets done.
If a 12 win Central Florida team got to the championship over a 12 and one ole miss team that beat Bama, Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M, state, and put your SEC East team here, do you think that there’s any justice in this world?
In such a scenario, Ole Miss shouldn't go. It makes the conference championship game even more important. If you're not the best in your conference, how can you claim to be the best in the country? With just 4 spots, there has to be a better way in which a Alabama team can't backdoor its way into it when they didn't even win their division.
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Most likely, no matter what system is implemented for a College Football Playoff, there will be someone somewhere who will find a flaw. The CFP was implemented to rank teams according to various power ratings and rankings. This system could still be used to pick the top teams, but undoubtedly, more than 4 teams should be involved in the playoff scenario.
The addition of games to a schedule could increase play for another month. By having a game each week at the end of the season, there is no doubt that this would interfere with the athletes' ability to study for finals, but then who really seems concerned about an athletes' grades when they can be playing football???
Presently there are 40 bowls which provide 80 teams the opportunity to play in a bowl game. If you take the top teams and allow them to play for a championship, there are still bowls left for the smaller teams that would play in the current first round of bowls.
The Playoff system will have to extend into multiple games using the current bowl games. The best scenario would be in teams with multiples of 8. Both a 32 team and 24 team scenario would take four weeks to play. If you took the top 32 teams according to the CFP rankings, brackets could be used for the games. In a standard pairing, the highest team plays the lowest team, then the next highest and next lowest, etc. Now would it be fair in a 32 team scenario for #1 to play #32? By using standard pairing, the lowest seeds should end up in the finals.
Here is a breakdown of the number of teams playing, bowls needed, extra weeks played, and extra games played:
8 teams (7 bowls) - 2 weeks (2 more games)
16 teams (15 bowls) - 3 weeks (3 more games)
24 teams (23 bowls) - 4 weeks; teams 1-8 get 1st week bye (4 games 9-24, 3 games 1-8)
32 teams (31 bowls) - 4 weeks (4 more games)
64 teams - (63 bowls) - 5 weeks (5 more games)
It would be good to have the playoffs initially expand to at least 8 teams, if not 16 teams. An optimal system would use 32 teams, but a 64 team playoff would encompass all the top teams and the lower tier teams who felt left out of the process. In the end everyone should get a trophy for participation!!!
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UCF can claim what they want, print whatever t-shirts they want, throw whatever parades they want, but the bottom line is whoever wins Monday night’s game will be the national champions and that’s just all there is to it.
As far as expanding the playoff - I think it should stay like it is. People just had to have a playoff in college football and now that there is one, there’s still a bunch of outrage over how it’s done. People got what they wanted - now they can live with the playoff they clamored for.