zreb wrote:

I certainly understand and can appreciate the other side of the Freeze argument. I dk where it all jumped the tracks for him, maybe coming from a HS  teacher/coach's income to 7 figures ( money changes some people)and the adulation of fans and kids or exactly what but I bet he wishes he had to do over again. From being embraced to being rejected has to be an emotional fall. OM will never get a proven big time coach however if we get a coach who becomes one, I think we'll do a better job $$$$ of keeping him. In the meantime, muddle onward!

I think the celebrity aspect caught up to him, to be honest. I think the social aspect of that would really change someone and prevent them from staying grounded. Of course, he may have always had the skeletons in his closet...

Having said that, I hope he has turned his life around and he becomes a redemption story.

Semper wrote:

For some, Freeze is like that old girl friend with whom you had a bad break up but continues to lives rent free in your head 24/7. Here's a married man and father of young daughters who was trolling for prostitutes while on official recruiting trips for Ole Miss. Personal forgiveness for that behavior is one thing. Each of us can decide for ourselves about that. The issue is how that behavior would impact Freeze at Ole Miss were he to be head coach here again. If I'm a mother or father of a 17 or 18 year-old son, do I want to entrust his college football career to man who was was trolling for prostitutes on the company dime? You can rest assured that coaches of opposing schools won't be too subtle in using this against Freeze on the recruiting trail. I have no animosity against Hugh Freeze and hope he can get his coaching career back on track. I just don't think it's best for him or Ole Miss that he return here.

I like Hugh Freeze. I don't know whether or not he would be successful in a return to Oxford. I do know two things though. Saban wanted him on staff and tried to make it happen, and two, Mullen's team attending recruiting trips at the Pink Pony (as reported in news) didn't keep him from coaching at Florida. I guess you could also add Orgeron's team trashing hotel rooms while at Ole Miss. My point is that every coaching candidate comes with a past. Some just hide it better.
 

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As Semper mentioned above, getting recruits or parents to trust Freeze would be hard to do after his deceitful escapades.  There is no doubt that every coach and opposing recruiter would use Freeze's jaded past as a weapon against him.  It is unfortunate that Freeze could not continue his success, but his self righteousness and ego go in the way of his progress. 

Many people who were around him from Memphis HS days to the Ole Miss days indicate that Freeze always wanted to be the most important person in the room and he let everyone know it.  This attitude caused some animosities with some donors who would probably block any attempt to bring Freeze back to Ole Miss.

mtc900 wrote:

Why does "everyone" think Freeze will win big again and get a big job again? ...

Because he the top offensive minded genius in football.  Just ask him and he will tell you!!!  🙃

 

Sooper_Rebel wrote:

Last 2 years wasn't fun? I guess that includes one of our best seasons ever (2015) and the Sugar Bowl. Granted, 2016 was a disappointment but we blew out Georgia and we played Bama to the wire. I'll take Hugh's last 2 years over any other 2 years since the 1970s.
 

3 fun years: 2013-2015. 2016 wasn't so much. The last 2 years (2017,2018) wouldn't have been better than 2016 if Freeze was coaching.

So my point is we would be at 3 seasons of 6-6 or worse (likely 4) if he was still here. Would you still be happy with him then?