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This pretty much expresses my feelings!
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on one hand, tomlin has had a history of skating around the edges of anti white points of view. On the other hand, from what I am hearing, this was potentially an attempt at keeping his team out of the light and potential blow back from players continuing to kneel. Which blew up in his face, right, wrong or indifferent.
Here is my deal, I don't care. Do i think kneeling for the anthem is stupid? yes, and childish, self serving and misdirected. The anthem and the flag stands for an idea that allowed these petty little manginas to earn more money in a year than most people will earn in a lifetime. All while a huge portion of them were whined and dined, recruited and treated like royalty during high school, colllege and now the NFL. Many of them have had brushes with the law and many have committed crimes.
Yet what started out being just to highlight instances that at most, are boardline issues of over reaching police actions, they have tried to paint the entire "movement" as much more than just the anti "bad cop", bs this started out being and is now evolved into a much larger scope that ultimately pits right vs left.
The other issue is Trump. He should have kept his mouth closed during this issue. But he condemned the kneelers and just like the slobbering dog after he hears the bell ring, the mass left wing media and other slobbering fools on the left amplified the issue. Never mind the countless times Obama interjected his opinion into every day issues with his hard left ideals. the media defended his points as brave and with reverence. Even when every one of his rash statements were based on lies or over exaggerations. the media carried the water and the useful idiots on all sides came running.
I am as emotionally charged and prone to rash responses as anyone. but I also know when my words are counter productive.
But then you have issues like the shooting that happened here in Nashville this weekend which lights my fuse. We have a mostly white church being shot up by a african immigrant who posted anti white rhetoric. When this happened in South Carolina Church and the car ramming , the blame and blowback was swift and scorched earth. The media ran with narratives for months and painted everyone not far left of center with a hateful brush. Yet I do not see any main stream media picking up this story and reporting on it with any interests other than in passing. no 24./7 opinions or hot takes. No follow up and no immediate assumptions of motives despite the evidence.
sickening
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It will take the fans not attending to get their attention. The sad thing is that if you give in to them, then in the future they will make more demands. Fire them and hire scrubs. Make pay cuts and let them get jobs in the real world where they cannot survive. These are overpaid primadonnas are a minority population representation making demands to a majority population.
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Mist people don't know that until 2009 NFL players stayed in the locker room until after the national anthem was played. Then the owners decided to trot them out before the anthem in some show of patriotism. Want to know why? The NFL received millions of taxpayer dollars from the Department of Defense and the National Guard for patriotic displays. Where the NFL is concerned, always follow the money.
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Maybe the Dept. of Defense and National Guard need to quit providing money to the NFL, since the players and owners are now making a mockery of the show of patriotism.
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Alejandro Villanueva, the steeler's OL, ex military decorated war veteran who came out to stand for the anthem is from around the Jackson MS area. This man is a war hero and came out to defend his love once again. But then came out the next day and apologized for making his team look bad. Though I don't think he should apologies, I am more proud of him for once again looking out for his team and how he does not make himself bigger than his team.
He through apologizing, proved how childish all this kneeling crap is and how much more of a man he for standing up and yet humbling himself. I love this guy
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Themob wrote:
Alejandro Villanueva, the steeler's OL, ex military decorated war veteran who came out to stand for the anthem is from around the Jackson MS area. This man is a war hero and came out to defend his love once again. But then came out the next day and apologized for making his team look bad. Though I don't think he should apologies, I am more proud of him for once again looking out for his team and how he does not make himself bigger than his team.
He through apologizing, proved how childish all this kneeling crap is and how much more of a man he for standing up and yet humbling himself. I love this guy
Making his team look bad? They did a pretty damn good job of that by themselves. I appreciate his service and the stand he took at the game, but his apologizing for standing for the National Anthem made me think of a sheep who wanted back in the fold. His gesture at the game was admirable, his apology, in my opinion, was not.
As a radio personality said yesterday, the protests at the Sunday games was not about a social issue, but was because they do not like Trump and his calling them out.
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Themob wrote:
Alejandro Villanueva, the steeler's OL, ex military decorated war veteran who came out to stand for the anthem is from around the Jackson MS area. This man is a war hero and came out to defend his love once again. But then came out the next day and apologized for making his team look bad. Though I don't think he should apologies, I am more proud of him for once again looking out for his team and how he does not make himself bigger than his team.
He through apologizing, proved how childish all this kneeling crap is and how much more of a man he for standing up and yet humbling himself. I love this guy
I took his statement as less of an apology and more of how he felt about this as a veteran. He said he served to allow people with different views than his to peacefully protest. While he said he would always stand for the national anthem, he understood and respected those--including his teammates--who might choose to in kneel in a peaceful protest. As a veteran, I agree with that. Like him, I always stand for the national anthem and would never consider doing otherwise.
It is permissible for veterans no longer on active service to salute the national anthem as they would if in uniform. I don't know why this is not given more attention. I think it would be great if this could get started on a wide scale.
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Themob wrote:
Alejandro Villanueva, the steeler's OL, ex military decorated war veteran who came out to stand for the anthem is from around the Jackson MS area. This man is a war hero and came out to defend his love once again. But then came out the next day and apologized for making his team look bad. Though I don't think he should apologies, I am more proud of him for once again looking out for his team and how he does not make himself bigger than his team.
He through apologizing, proved how childish all this kneeling crap is and how much more of a man he for standing up and yet humbling himself. I love this guyI took his statement as less of an apology and more of how he felt about this as a veteran. He said he served to allow people with different views than his to peacefully protest. While he said he would always stand for the national anthem, he understood and respected those--including his teammates--who might choose to in kneel in a peaceful protest. As a veteran, I agree with that. Like him, I always stand for the national anthem and would never consider doing otherwise.
It is permissible for veterans no longer on active service to salute the national anthem as they would if in uniform. I don't know why this is not given more attention. I think it would be great if this could get started on a wide scale.
Every person has the right to protest of that I agree. However, the playing of the National Anthem is a time when we should be united as AMERICANS.....there is a time and place for protest and disagreements and that venue is not the time for dissension. All that will do is create bad feelings and will not win people over to 'the' cause.
If I were to go into an NAACP meeting I have the 'right' to wear a white supremacist shirt but I would never intentionally try to poke my finger in anyone's eye like that....And that is EXACTLY what these thugs are doing. This is pure in your face anti-America propagandizing (not to mention the anti-Trump component which is a big part as well). If they want to protest do it on their own time. Or better yet they could spend a few thousand dollars of the millions they make to fund their favorite 'cause.'
The NFL is going to learn an expensive lesson....you don't piss in the face of those who pay for your extravagant life style.